Trapped! ~ Update at the VERY BOTTOM of this post.

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I posted this on a public forum b/c I was trying to help my Mom. Instead of getting answers I got ridiculed and made fun of. I walked away hurt and upset b/c it’s hard for me to read how there are some people who are truly heartless and w/o compassion b/c let’s be honest, if they can’t have compassion for little animals I can’t imagine that they've have much more for people either.

Anyway after this I decided to leave that forum. They claim their a place where people can say what they like w/o fear of censorship from the moderators. A place where we can discuss happenings within the city and not be worried that one of the big wigs in town will see it and get mad so we’d have to tone it down and sell out the way the original “opinions and discussions” group did but what they really want is a place to act up w/o fear of retribution! They want to be able to flame someone w/o the moderators putting a stop to it. Well I’m done; I don’t need that kinda crap in my life!!!

So here ya go this is the thread that I started and a related thread that followed it. I thought about taking the last names off but since they pride themselves on “freedom” and choose not to close the group to outside members then I shouldn't be ridiculed for posting this on my blog!!!

 

Peggy Sue Clay

***WARNING – I’M VENTING SO IF THIS MAKES YOU MAD IGNORE IT***

Sometimes I hate the people in this city!!! My Mom just called me and said that some damn people down the street from her are catching cats and doing who knows what with them!!! She’d had two or three of her little cats missing and her and daddy just found one of them IN A TRAP!!! I called the police and they said that the traps aren’t illegal (dang it!!!) so now she just has to put up with people trapping her cats!!! What is she supposed to do??!?!?!!!!! SHE IS REALLY REALLY UPSET and I don’t know what to tell her.

Jerry Boling

if you have animals. keep them in your house or in your yard other wise other people see them as strays. The last thing this town needs is to be run down even more by animals that nobody wants! I say good job to the city bout damn time. im tired of stray cats getting in my backyard getting in my boat and jacking stuff up.

Alisa Martin

Maybe if Mary put tags on her cats?? I don't know if it would help but it couldn't hurt. :)

Peggy Sue Clay

@ Jerry – First of all who said that nobody wants them?!?!!! Just b/c you have no compassion on little animals doesn’t mean that everyone is as heartless as you are!!! And it’s NOT the city; these are the idiots that live down the street!!! And if you ...See More

Alisa Martin – I'm Frank's ex-wife Peggy!!! Lol! Don't you remember me?? ;D

Peggy Sue Clay – LOL sorry, I wasn’t really paying attention and I never knew your last name.

Zack Amarante – Make their traps disappear.

Alisa Martin –  It wouldn't have registered anyway Peggy. I remarried 5 years ago. :)

Serenna Hitter –  If you want your pets safe and secure, keep them on your property.

Peggy Sue Clay

Apparently you don’t know anything about cats either, never mind the one’s that are half wild! Zack, I just saw your post. That’s what I told my Mom but the way people are these days they’d put up a camera and arrest her.

Tim Sparky Williams

cats on the loose costed me 225$ to my hood on my car years ago, they jump on it and the claws scratches the paint. thats why i dont like cats loose, keep them in the house

Serenna Hitter – If they are wild they can't be pets. Hence if you can't "pet" them, they are not "pets."

Katie Smith

It breaks my heart to see animals just let out to roam loose. I mean I understand cats do get loose every once in a while as I have had cats before but it didn't take me a day to get them back inside. But to see animals taken in by a family and let loose again just to roam free is wrong in my opinion. Yes cats and dogs have instincts to protect themselves in the wild but these days and times as people and their midset have evolved it is not safe to keep pets out. This post does not pertain to those people who have fences or the like to contain their animals. It would upset me as well Tim to have to fix my hood from a cat scratching the hood. I have a cat now and he doesn't go out ever. I had a dog before this in Alabama he was an inside/ outside dog but he was also collared and tagged in a fence. People chouls take responsibility for their actions if they are going to have a pet. They wouldnt let their child roam free like a stray or they should anyways a pet is no different.

Jerry Boling

I may be wrong but I thought the city made a law that said if you live in the city limits you could only have up to 3 cats or 2 dogs in your possession at a time. Does anyone know if that is still in effect?

Bob McGill

It is nice that some people are concerned about the animals that run loose, it is just to bad they are not as concerned about other peoples rights and property. If the cats are loose then trap them just like when dogs are loose they catch them.

Heath Williams

you kno it is epic crazy that so many people care for stray cats. that mess up high dollar paint jobs on cars and the owner of the car has to pay out of their pocket to fix it. because of that reason i dont give a flying fuck about cats. if yall radical insane people worry that much yall need to get them of the streets then

Odella Bell – Call your nearest SPCA or humane society to investigate.

Katie Smith – Someone needs a hershey Kiss. Calm down LOL theres no need in all that.

Tim Sparky Williams

Altus, Oklahoma Opinions and Discussions is BS!

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Peggy Sue Clay

How many different ways do I need to say this so that you people can understand?!

The cats are the children of the children of the children (and so on) of their old pets that have passed on. They’re not all “petable” b/c they’re a little bit wild hence the reason they’re not “indoor cats”. How can you catch a half wild little cat who’s scared anyway?! But how can you let a poor little cat go hungry? Answer: ANYONE WITH A HEART COULDN’T!!!

And I find it very funny that it’s the heartless people who hate cats so much that get their cars messed up. That’s hilarious to me b/c neither my parents nor me have EVER had a cat mess up our cars. Why, b/c they know we care about them and they are thankful.

@ Odella – Thank you.

@ Katie – Know what I really love, well besides chocolate of course. Lipton’s Black Pearl tea in the pyramid bags! I don’t even like black tea but I love that brand but leave it to Walmart, they don’t sell them any more. But if you can find it somewhere try it it’s so worth it especially if you add cream and sugar to it. Yum!

@ Tim – That’s what I’m doing. I’m expressing my opinion about the idiots down the street from my Mom.

Anyway totally going in a different direction here, notice how I don’t care if my thread gets “hijack”? **gasp** How DARE I not care.

Anyway, yall go over to the “Cash Mob” forum and check out the thread that Victor Wells started about the “other” forum. It’s interesting…

Tim Sparky Williams

but i do believe their is a ordinance on cats in the city limits , i like cats but not running loose

Katie Smith

Peggy I do agree with you my post wasn't to you LOL But I also love tea with a little milk and sugar in it YUM. I do believe that strays are a problem I am not against trapping strays at all trapping is humane because it is not harming the cats or dogs in any way. People are the ones partly responsible for strays they get a pet who then they let free and never got them fixed and they have babies etc. My kitty is at the vet as we speak getting fixed woohoo LOL.

Katie Smith

P.S what is this other forum I keep hearing about I would love to see what kinds of things they post.

Tim Sparky Williams – same name as this one but take off the is B S at the end

Katie Smith – Oh Ok Thank you.

Tim Sparky Williams – your welcome

Jerry Boling

If you cant contain your pets dont have them. Nobody else wants to care for them for you!!!!!!!! They have their own priorities. Keep your pets at home not on the street.You dont let your kids just run all over and crawl on people's cars and tear up things no I didnt think so. So y is it ok for your outside cat to do it. If you want an animal take care of it or dont have it. Quit bitching about people trying to get rid of stays. If you care put a collar on it or dont have them. My property is more important than your cat. Dont get me wrong I love my dogs and I like cats but keep them under control. Strays got to go!

Peggy Sue Clay

But remember that the original forum (group) “Altus, Oklahoma Opinions and Discussions” is now closed to us rif-raf. But the group I was talking about is the Cash Mob forum (group). – I call all of these groups forums so whenever I say that you’ll know what I’m talking about.

And Jerry, as far as I’m concerned you’re obviously to thick and far too selfish to EVER understand the nature of animals so you don’t deserve any more of my time. Other than to say I hope you will soon reap the hateful uncaring attitude that you have no problem sowing towards not only helpless little animas but towards people I’m sure. But my guess is that with your outlook on life you must live a pretty miserable existence masked by the luxuries of a boat and whatever else you try to surround yourself with to fill that gapping void you walk around trying to hide and if I gave a damn about you I even feel sorry for you but you’re not even that much of my time!

Jerry Boling

Thats ok peggy if it makes you feel better about your self to talk trash about me thats fine. but yes the things in my yard including the boat are way more important than a flea infested possibly diseased stray animal that nobody wants. if you like strays so much why dont you go around the town pick them all up and take them home with you. how would you like it if you left the window down on you car on a hot summer day come back outside and a stray cat has climbed into you car and pissed on your seats or clawed at them. you wouldnt like. i have more heart than you give me credit for. if taking pride in the few nice thing i have is being selfish then so be it. i work very hard to get what i have and i am not going to sit by and let a mangy unwanted animal destroy it. You dont know me and you dont know shit about where i come from. so b4 you go calling me selfish, hateful or uncaring you better check yourself.

Peggy Sue Clay

# 1) I don’t need to “trash talk” people when the truth is so obvious.

#2) FYI I have two strays that come around my house that I feed on a regular basis, they’ve kind of adopted me. Not that you’ve have the heart to care.

#3) It’s happened, it’s called Fabreeze but no biggie, they think I belong to them so they’re marking their territory. Kinda cute in a way so it doesn’t bother me.

#4) I see you attitude here and anyone who has no respect for animals can’t have too much more for people.

Katie Smith

well my thing whether it be a cat, dog, boat, car, anything it shows that some people obviously don't take pride in their belongings if they will leave the windows down on a hot day or put a weather cover over their boat etc.

Katie Smith – NOT put a weather cover ^

Jeroldo Lynn

lots of people leave their windows down on a hot day. just because they leave them down doesnt mean they dont care about the car its because they dont want it hot as hell when they get in. cats can get under those weather covers.

Jeroldo Lynn

Quit attacking people and start attacking the problem. i love cats and dogs. my dog is my world i would be lost without his love. he was a stray when i got him but stray cats and dogs have become a major problem in many citys. knocking over trash cans and attacking unexpecting people. it is a problem that needs a solution. attacking each other on here is not a solution only another problem. peggy and jerry you two should stop the petty back and forth bickering it just show how childish and and uneducated about the situation you both really are!!

Jeroldo Lynn – grow up people

Marinda Ingram

The City Ordinance for dogs allow you to have four. I love animals and its probably a good thing we have an ordinance because I would be homeless trying to provide for animals I can not afford. Nice to see a discussion going on and the passion behind it!!

Peggy Sue Clay

@ Jeroldo – I put a warning in my thread remember? >>> ***WARNING – I’M VENTING SO IF THIS MAKES YOU MAD IGNORE IT***<<< He could very easily have ignored it as I said but he chose not to and he didn’t add to the conversation either.

I started this thread b/c my mother was upset and I didn’t know how to help her which in turn upsets me. I’m also upset that people can be so heartless and cruel as to trap poor little cats; I don’t care what their so-called reasons are. I did not attack Jerry but I sure as hell put an end to it b/c I went to his page AND BLOCKED HIM! So if he’s said something to me (or to you or to whomever) after my last post then I can’t see it therefore I cannot response. PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

Now I’m exhausted and I’m goin to bed. Yall wanta stay up and mess with then be my guess t but I’m done b/c I certainly did not get any help or any answers here save one or two people.

Julie Wilson Kelly

So sorry to hear this. Our two cats got out and have disappeared also. I wonder if we live in the same neighborhood.

Misty Rose Holder

In my old house the neighbor had a cat who had babies of babies. And they were strays! The city of Mcloud said the cats wasn't a concern only the dogs. I am sorry to say this... but if they don't have a collar they need to be caught. These cats were mult like rabbits and next thing we knew they were under our house and then the duct work was clawed up. So the under the house was either hot or cold and we was paying the bill for nothing. I am sorry.... IF YOU WANT the animals you need to register them and make sure you keep your animals under control. I understand them getting out and wanting to find them. It happens but we are talking about STRAYS! But sometimes a problem can get worse and worse. As far as not wanting a boat messed up... or whatever. NO that's the person's property... and your animals have no right on or in it! Maybe peeps should start paying for damages your animals caused! Then you won't mind so much if they get caught when your money goes down the drain instead of someone elses!

Misty Rose Holder

By the way... here's an idea... try being in the person's shoes who's had enough! Me and three other neighbors did what the owners should have done and took them to the animal shelter.

Misty Rose Holder

Sorry Julie, you may have been in the cross fire when it came to your cats... Go check out the animal shelter. That's where we took the strays. One lady I lived next too even went as far as taking them to her job at the zoo trying to find homes for them... Sorry sis..

Julie Wilson Kelly – Don't have the money for that. My cats are inside cats they just got out.

Peggy Sue Clay

Thank you Julie and I’m so sorry to hear about your cats. I don’t know if you remember but I’m the lady who stopped to talk to you at Walmart that day over by the north door. I could email you here and tell you what street my Mom lives on if that helps.

>>>I am sorry to say this... but if they don't have a collar they need to be caught.<<<

@ Misty – They love all of these cats and they are putting collars on the ones that they’re able to catch. Mamma didn’t say if the one in the trap had a collar or not but chances are with the attitude these people have I honestly don’t think it would matter to them. But that is just my opinion.

>>> It happens but we are talking about STRAYS! <<<

They are NOT strays, they have a home they just can’t catch all of them

.>>>Misty Rose Holder 1:15pm Dec 2By the way... here's an idea... try being in the person's shoes who's had enough! Me and three other neighbors did what the owners should have done and took them to the animal shelter.<<<

In my neighborhood, NOT my Mom’s, I had a dog who tore up my trash almost every single day and I STILL DID NOT CALL THE POUND ON HIM! I complained but I still picked up my trash b/c I’d rather pick it up than have the dog pound pick it up and kill it!!!!! That animal’s life ment more to me than my own annoyance or personal inconvenience, it’s a pity that some people don’t have that kind of compassion!

Misty Rose Holder

Julie... I wasn't sayin' I wanted your cats to be hurt or anything. I am talking about he cats you can't even touch or catch. There is a huge diff between strays and pets and you know this.

about an hour ago..

Misty Rose Holder

Diseases Contracted from Cats

http://wvcats.com/diseases_contracted_from_cats.htm

LaDawna Taylor

You obviously know very little about the animal shelter here in this town. They do love and care for the animals. Shots, and baths and good meals. Very rarely do they have to put an animal to sleep. I dont know where you live but when I take out my trash I put it in a dumpster that has a lid. I have a small child that likes to play outside and 2 dogs (that came from the animal shelter)! I'm sorry that there is sooo many strays myself but I'm not going to beat the subject half to death. Pray for the animals!!!!!!! Lol

LaDawna Taylor

oh and I brought up my child to make a very valid point..strays have been commonly known to hurt children. Even if they dont mean to hurt them. Some strays are very dangerous to school children just walking to and from the school. I have seen this happen first hand. Have to look at it from ALL sides.

Related Thread

LaDawna Taylor
Hey you know....some of you people need therapy. just saying....I was reading the posts on the stray cat situation and I was just flabbergasted...lol I mean come on if they are truly domesticated cats they will go on home after doing their thing outside...if the are wild they roam around, eating what they can and live under peoples houses and what not...and may I point out that stray cats carry disease and vermin, rabies etc and are in fact a danger to the children that have no idea the dangers of playing with stray cats. If you dont like the way the city is trying to control the stray animal population then buy a friggin farm and house them all....good luck with that.

Oh and by the by.... I'm starting to notice a trend on here as well on the "other" opinion page, that when "opinions" differ then the arguing and blocking people starts. you shouldnt open a page and ask for opinions if you cant take the ones that are not the same as yours. So to the person who started this particular page, please feel free to block me as well since I dont agree. otherwise...Have a nice evening :)

Jennifer Harris

the guy that started this page doesnt block anybody (unless it's an adminstrator from the other page) feel free to write whatever you want...

i also have a inside/oustside cat but i have a collar on him with a bell because there are a couple of strays that look like him...i also inform my neighbors he's mine...oh yea he's also fixed so i dont have worry about him knocking up the neighborhood ferals..

LaDawna Taylor

thank you...Gerald invited me to this page ( I think ) so I wasnt sure. I like coming on here and reading everybody's posts. And it is nice to have notices and updates of whats going on around town. so thank you for that.

Misty Rose Holder – Thank you... 

Saturday, February 21, 2015

I found this video by a brother in Christ, Mario from The Vigilant Christian has made this wonderful video on how to care for your cat. Too bad I can’t post this to the forum where this happened but I know they would make fun of me for it so I’ll post it here.

How to be a Godly Cat Guardian 101 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgV1dYtFj3U